Showing posts with label atrial septum. Show all posts
Showing posts with label atrial septum. Show all posts
Monday, December 16, 2013

Fetal Clinic

Friday (two days after my appointment with Dr. Huhta) found me at Fetal Clinic at Wolfson's. Fetal Clinic is where I was to go in and tour the NICU, PICU and meet the surgeons who will be performing the HLHS series of surgeries. I got to the hospital at 8 am and was scanned by an ultrasound tech. Dr. Lacey isn't in on Fridays so I had to wait until Monday for her to call me with the results of the scan. After the scan Dr. Ettedgui came in to speak to me. He is the doctor from the cath lab that will be performing the atrial septostomy. I took lots of notes and when we were done I realized I had three pages of negativity.

"The collective experience suggests the outcome is dismal"

"We don't want pain and discomfort for your baby if the procedures will prove to be fruitless"

"Babies will declare themselves non-survivors and that's when we administer comfort measures only"

"IF baby is stable for a few hours then the atrial septostomy is not unrealistic"

"Odds are stacked against you and your baby"

"There are all sorts of potential for bad outcomes"

"You have a very very high risk baby"

There was more. It was painful to sit through. Not because he was talking about the difficulties Baby Brother would have but because I knew from two days ago that there are people out there who want to be optimistic about our son's options and his chances for survival. To have to listen to someone write your son off is just emotionally painful. I asked him about the procedure itself and what to expect from that and he explained how they do the septostomy and again, followed it up with all the danger and dismal outcomes. Jason actually asked me if I only wrote down the negative things this guy was saying and I laughed and said "No, I wrote down EVERYTHING he said". It was just bad news to more bad news. After that Dr. Kreiger came in to speak with me.

Dr. Kreiger is from PedsCare. Don't know what that is? Join the club! I didn't know either. Then she explained. PedsCare oversees the palliative care option. She is basically the "do nothing" overseer. So she took me to her office and gave me all sorts of information on comfort care measures. Even a birthplan that was all typed out with boxes to check for what we would want to do if this or that happened. I sat there almost in shock that I was meeting with her. Jason and I have been very adamant in our desire to do something and that doing nothing was not an option for us. So I sat, smiled and waited for her to finish. Once she was done I thanked her for her time and left. I went back to the Cardiology office and they called the Chaplain. The hospital chaplain does all the hospital tours. I guess they want you to be comfortable with him in case you need him.

Chaplain Fred came in and took me on the tour. He showed me the NICU and the PICU and tried to answer questions. He is obviously very loved at the hospital as everyone we passed either smiled very warmly or they said hello or they filled him in on whatever was going on. He seemed to know everyone and everyone knew him and it was enjoyable watching him in his element. Of all the people I met that day he was the most positive and sincere. He introduced me to another mother whose baby is a cardiac patient. She said her baby was diagnosed after delivery and she was grateful she didn't have to spend her pregnancy worried about him and what was going to happen. I can totally see her point. BUT if I didn't know ahead of time Baby Brother would surely die. So I guess it's really just preference. She was nice and praised the doctors at Wolfson's but that's probably because she didn't have to deal with them ahead of time! Sorry, I'm sure they are fantastic doctors. They just aren't prepared for our baby and what he wants to throw at them. So we were done there and Chaplain Fred told me I was free to go. I was confused as I hadn't met the surgeons yet so he took me back to the cardiology office to see what was going on.

Back in the cardiology office the secretary said I was free to go and I asked her about meeting the surgeons. The whole point of fetal clinic for me was to meet these guys, ask them my questions and try to see where they stand with things. The secretary asked the head tech if she knew why my meeting with the surgeons was cancelled and she said "oh yes". She said Dr. Lacey and the surgeons felt it would be better if they met with me after baby had the atrial septostomy and was stabilized. They felt the type of procedure may change after that so it's best not to confuse me with telling me one thing and then having to come back and tell me something different later on. I seriously could not believe what I was hearing. Knowing I wouldn't get anything else from these two, since they aren't doctors, I just smiled and left. As soon as I was in the parking garage I called Jason and I was ticked!

I said "Even though they didn't use these words what they basically just said to me was 'we don't think your Baby Brother is going to live past the cath lab so we aren't going to waste our time meeting with you'." Jason agreed with me. We were both livid. I don't care if the procedure may change. At least give me 2 minutes of your time to meet you before I consent to you cutting my baby's chest open and doing surgery on his heart! Is that too much to ask??

Up until this point Jason and I had been talking about delivering in St. Petersburg and what that means for our family. It isn't a decision we can take lightly. Needless to say this experience was definitely going in the cons list for Wolfson's. Here it is 10 days later and I am still upset by it!

Then I started getting phone calls from 727 area code numbers. All Children's Hospital has already made me appointments with a delivering doctor and to tour the facility.
Tuesday, December 10, 2013

Hope Springs Eternal

I had the worst night's sleep on Tuesday night. I tossed and turned all night long. I guess I was more anxious about this appointment than I was willing to let on.

Since Jason was unable to take the day off from work my Daddy came with me to my appointment in Tampa. Dr. Huhta goes between All Children's Hospital in St. Petersburg and St. Joseph's Women's Hospital in Tampa. This day he was in Tampa so at 8:30 in the morning we started our 3 plus hour drive.

It was fun having Daddy drive me down. We talked and had biscuits from Hardees. Drank lots of water but didn't need to pee surprisingly enough. We made great time. So great in fact we had 2 hours to waste before the appointment. So we called Mom and she set us off on a mission. She needed Flutterbyes for my nieces for Christmas. We found a Toys R Us and even though they had them I knew most places had them cheaper. By almost 10 bucks! So we left there and found a BJs. They had them. We bought them. Mission accomplished! We wondered around for a little bit and then decided to get going.

We drove to the hospital and almost didn't make the appointment. We got lost and no one could tell us where we needed to go. It was frustrating. They couldn't even find Dr. Huhta in the directory. I was getting very annoyed. I didn't just drive all this way for nothing! Finally I called the St. Petersburg office and they told us where to go. As soon as we got back to where we started (the same place the first person told us we were in the wrong place) my dad went straight up to the girl and got on to her about wasting our time. She was apologetic and got us signed in immediately. It was then I realized just how nervous my dad was too. He is usually so easy going and level headed.

Lori the ultrasound tech came and got us and we got down to business. I'm a talker so I was making small talk and then the door opened. It was the infamous Dr. Huhta.

When we would go see Dr. Lacey the tech would perform the sonogram and when done would upload the pictures to Dr. Lacey where she sat in an office and reviewed them and made measurements and notes and then would come in and talk to us.

So, here's Dr. Huhta in the room with us looking over the shoulder of the tech asking questions, looking at the scan as it's happening and you can see his mind working. All the things Dr. Lacey does in her office with the help of pencils and paper and calculators Dr. Huhta is doing in his head. Then he asks "And the atrial septum?" So Lori scans over it again and, under her breath, says "looks OK to me". My dad and I both gasped! I begged my dad to just sit tight and we would talk about it when the sonogram was done. I just knew they were going to look at it from another angle and we would hear "Ahhh, now I see" or something to that affect. And just as soon as it started the sonogram was done. Dr. Huhta (who had introduced himself as soon as he walked in) told us he would meet us in the conference room as soon as I was cleaned up and ready.

The very short walk to the conference room, which was just simply around the corner from the sonogram room, seemed like the longest walk of my life. What was he going to tell me? We sat down at the round table and he began to talk. The room started to spin. I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

"No need for atrial intervention" (translation - he doesn't see a need for an atrial septostomy)

"Mild atrial restriction"

"I like to see a mild restriction in Hypoplastic Left Heart babies."

And the one that had me in tears.....

"3 out of 4 chance of seeing your son playing in Kindergarten!"

So because of one simple phone call my son's chances at life have gone from 10% (or worse) to 75%. I still can't believe what I heard.

Dr. Huhta explained our son has a mildly restrictive atrial septum. In his mind and experience it is not severally restrictive. He said he actually prefers a mild restriction because in an HLHS baby the atrial septum being completely open would allow blood to over flow the lungs once born and that is worse for our little guy. A mild restriction prevents a blood overflow into the lungs. Our baby was showing him all positive things. As positive as it can be for an HLHS baby.

He went on to explain they perform the Sano Modification to the Norwood procedure which gives babies a 15% mortality rate instead of 20% with the regular Norwood. Their mortality rates on the second and third procedures (the Biodirectional Glen and the Fontan) are in the single digits. More specifically 1-2%.

There were so many other things said in that meeting that I will have to have another post just to further explain everything. Bottom line was ~ Our baby has a chance! Prayers, fasting, Priesthood power! It all works. Miracles can happen! Our baby might just survive this.
Monday, November 25, 2013

Option 1

Option 1:

Intervention ~ HEORIC MEASURES

(In other words not fully expected to work)

Planned C-Section in the Wolfson's Heart Cath Lab.

They are expecting Baby Brother's condition to be so deteriorated that they can't risk the time it would take to get him from the regular surgical room to the cath lab so delivery in the cath lab is ideal. There are two rooms in the cath lab so one would be set up as my delivery room and the other set up to immediately perform the atrial septostomy.

On hand will be the adult surgical team for me to include anesthesiology and my OB. Then there will be the Cardiologist team, NICU team and Echmo team for him. Lots of scheduling to do so delivery will most likely be moved up to December 27th or 30th. For those who may not know, like myself, the Echmo team is the bypass team. This is the bypass machine that keeps people alive when having open heart surgery or some other procedure that requires bypass.

As soon as Baby Brother is pulled from my belly they will rush him to his side of the cath lab to perform the surgery. There was a bit of debate between Jason and I as to what to call this procedure. I keep saying catheterization because they way they get in to do the atrial septostomy is through the groin in the same way a heart cath is done. Jason says it's surgery because, well, it is. I'm not denying it is a surgical procedure, just trying to differentiate the difference between going through the groin as opposed to actually opening his chest. (if that make sense to you)

They would try to perform the atrial septostomy immediately and this would hopefully work to open his atrial septum. The struggle is they think Baby Brother will be so sick that he will need to go on bypass. Why is this a problem? (Besides the obvious!) This is a problem because in a normal catheterization you go in through the groin, perform the procedure, come back out, put lots of pressure on the incision area until bleeding can cauterize. If he has to go on bypass then the problem comes with bleeding. A bypass machine is constantly pushing blood through it. The mechanisms are plastic. So the blood flows through plastic tubes, essentially. Because of this they have to use blood thinners in the blood to prevent the blood from cauterizing in the tubes. If they are using blood thinners in the blood then thinned blood is what is going into Baby Brother. Once they go to pull the needle (or whatever it is) out of his groin there will be no way to stop the bleeding and he will bleed out. If they can get the needle out and stop the bleeding then Baby Brother has to start fighting to get off that machine. They will only keep him on it for 2 weeks before we have to make some very hard decisions. The other problem with the bypass and thinned blood is the risk of bleeding on the brain.

I asked if it was possible, in a perfect world of course, for them to get the procedure done before Baby Brother would have to go on the bypass machine. She said Yes! Absolutely. But that would be a perfect scenario and so far your baby hasn't wanted to do anything perfect.

She said the first 48 hours are going to be crucial. That's when they would expect him to "crash and burn".

Once he comes off bypass (if he even goes on, I'm still praying!) and is making strides, then and only then will they determine if he is a good candidate for the Norwood procedure. That is the first procedure to mend the Hypoplastic Left Heart.

If we choose this option Dr. Lacey wants us to reconsider an amniocentesis to check for chromosomal abnormalities. She wants us to make as an informed decision as possible. To a layman she said let's see if there is anything else going on with this little guy because you may not want to fix a heart that's attached to a down syndrome baby. This is the part that has me MAD! She never specifically used a specific abnormality but I can read between the lines. Don't get me wrong she is a very nice lady and a wonderful cardiologist BUT I didn't have an amnio for a reason and the reason is I DON'T CARE! Jason and I agreed a long long time ago the risk of the amnio is too great. Especially since the results would not change a single thing. If this baby had Downs or any other something, you know like Hypoplastic Left Heart, we would still treat him like the gift from God that he is. He is a precious spirit that Heavenly Father thought Jason and I capable of handling and I will not play God! If HLHS doesn't scare me (even though it kinda does) then some other abnormality never will! I'm sorry, I'll step off my soap box. Bottom line is we have declined, yet again, an amnio. This is also the reason for determining if he will be a candidate for the Norwood. I suppose if he has something else wrong they will decline to operate on him. I'm not sure what makes one baby a good candidate and another not but they will operate on my son! If he can make it through the atrial septostomy under all that pressure then the Norwood will be a piece of cake.
Sunday, November 24, 2013

Dr. Lacey Does It Again

***WARNING*** THIS IS A LONG POST WITH SOME VERY UNCOMFORTABLE CONTENT

Thursday started out a normal Thursday. I went to class and after school I received a phone call. It was Samantha in Dr. Lacey's office. She wanted to remind me of my appointment at 1 (the appointment has always been scheduled through Wolfson's and therefore the automated system calls me a couple of days before and I have to press whatever number to confirm. Dr. Lacey's office has NEVER called to confirm the appointment.) and to make sure my husband will be with me. The last two appointments my mother  and mother in law had attended with me and my father was planning on attending Thursday's appointment. So I said "well he wasn't planning on it" and Samantha said Dr. Lacey was specifically requesting he be there because they had quite a bit information to go over with the both of us. I said I would call my husband and try to get him there.

I called Jason at work and of all the days this was the one day he had tons of work to do. We were both hoping this was more of a "hey, we're getting close to delivery so we wanted to kinda go over things" but at the same time we have Fetal Clinic scheduled for December 6th to go over those things. He said he would make the time because if she's asking for him to be there it was obviously important. I called back just because I was curious and asked if the information was about delivery or about the diagnosis. I was informed it was about both. Great ~ Now I've got the next several hours to worry about what on earth the doctor could tell us. What could have changed between two weeks ago and now? and how would Dr. Lacey even know since she hasn't seen me in those two weeks?

I got to the appointment first. The agreement was I would text Jason once they were about 20 minutes from being done with the scan. They can take upwards of an hour so what was the point in making him sit through that? He was about 15 minutes away so that would give him time to get there before the doctor came in. When I got to Wolfson's to check in the woman said "oh, they just called asking if you were here yet". Really? I got there 5 minutes BEFORE my appointment. This anxiety to see me was making me even more anxious! Needless to say I wasn't sitting for very long with the Cable lady came and got me. (her last name is cable...) She did the scan, I texted Jason, Dr. Lacey came in for a couple more views, Jason got there and we sat down to hear the news.

Forgive me for not having all the information from that appointment but there was a point where I couldn't breathe, much less write.

Dr. Lacey starts by telling us she has been in several meetings the last two weeks. (remember, we famous. Now we're about to become infamous!) She has met with her Cardiologist team, the surgical team, the high risk team, the this team, the that team.. they all have the same opinion. Baby Brother is not well. They have been watching his atrial septum deteriorate over the last couple of scans and just as she expected, it is even worse with this scan. I've said before his atrial septum must be open and floppy. His has thickened and become restricted. At the last appointment she explained the need for an atrial septostomy. This hasn't changed. The difference is now it's even more dangerous. There is a number grading system for the seriousness of the restriction of his atrial septum. They take his scans and the doppler from those scans and they measure length between one output and the other and come up with this grade. 5 or greater is a mild restriction. 5 or less is moderate to severe restriction. (I'm still curious what 5 actually means...) So Baby Brother's grade was 4. This indicates moderate to severe but Dr. Lacey is confident his restriction is not moderate. At the last appointment he presented with a mild case but the appointment two weeks before that he was still open and floppy so you can see the deterioration in his condition. {Side note ~ I'm sweating just typing all this out. Takes me back to being at the appointment where my face went flush, there was ringing in my hears and it sounded like the Charlie Brown teacher trying to talk to us} This situation is putting increased pressure on the lungs and pulmonary veins in the heart.

Extraordinarily high risk. That is the description she used over and over again. She has downgraded his survival chances. He was given 80% originally. Now she said it's "50/50 and it may not be that good".

We now have two options

Option 1:

Planned C-Section to be performed in the Wolfson's Heart Cath Lab. This has NEVER been done before at Wolfson's. Ever. Jason asked if they would name the procedure after me. Dr. Lacey laughed and said "maybe the room".

Option 2:

Do nothing and enjoy what little time we may have with him holding him, loving him, kissing him, taking pictures with him and then letting him go.

{sorry ~ will go into greater detail of these options in different posts as this is causing me too much pain right now. And there is so much information.}


Wednesday, November 13, 2013

One Step Forward Two Steps Back....

My mom went with me to my pediatric cardiologist appointment this time. It was nice to have her there. I'm glad she got to go and talk to the doctor and try to understand a little bit more what is going on. It also turned out to be wonderful to have her there for support.

The scan lasted about an hour and when the tech left she told me she wasn't able to get pictures of the aortic arch and the doctor may come in and try so I didn't move. Sure enough the doctor did come back in but was looking at something different. She was looking for the atrial septum. In her frustration of trying unsuccessfully to find the aortic arch she forgot to scan the atrial septum.

A little background in case you have forgotten.......

At the last appointment I asked specifically about the atrial septum. This is an important piece of the puzzle. Baby Brother needs his atrial septum to be open and floppy. An intact atrial septum is not good. But for him, his was open, floppy and wonderful. Giving the doctor no concern at all. The main concerns at the last appointment were cardiomegaly (an enlarging of his heart because it was 40% the size of his chest), pericardial effusion (fluid around the heart) and the "event" that lead to HLHS in our baby. All of these things indicated early signs of congestive heart failure. Hydrops Fetalis was also a concern with the fluid around his heart. I'm not sure I mentioned it in the last cardiologist post but I asked specifically about his aorta and if it had grown any. Dr. Lacey indicated since he has HLHS she wasn't expecting the aorta to grow because it's growth is based on the output from the left side and since his left side wasn't working then we shouldn't expect growth but since his aorta is currently 2.6 mm and they want at least 2 mm. then we are good to go.

Back to this appointment.....

Dr. Lacey said his mitral valve is bright. I'm not really sure what that means but she has said it at every appointment. I am making a note in my handy dandy notebook to ask what that means as I type this.

She measured his heart and he is currently measuring at 35% of his chest size and the fluid is very minimal. Minimal fluid also means minimal chances for Hydrops Fetalis. This is good news. We are nowhere near out of the woods for cardiomegaly, pericardial effusion and congestive heart failure but these improvements are GOOD! Yeah! Good news! Finally!

Then she dropped the hammer......

Her main concern now is his atrial septum. The doctors she spoke with at the board meeting/round table all seemed to focus on one thing. His atrial septum. Advising her to keep a close eye on it. So at this appointment she paid more attention to it and sees signs that his atrial septum has thickened. It is a valve that has been working overtime and instead of appearing floppy and open it is now presenting itself as thickened and not as mobile. This is a problem. A huge problem. This MUST be open. 

Another problem is elevated pressure on the lungs. There is no way to measure pressure to the lungs but from all the other things she is seeing on the sonogram she can infer elevated pressure to his lungs causing pulmonary hypertension. Jason and I need to prepare for Baby Brother to be born with "sick lungs".

So what does this mean? It means (I feel like I'm going to throw up as I type this!) as soon as Baby Brother comes out of my belly they will rush him to the NICU and place a breathing tube down his throat. Then they will sedate him, administer pain medicine and the IV medicine Prostaglandin (I think that's how you spell it) which is the medicine to keep open the ductus areteriosus. (I call it the ductul valve for ease) As soon as that's complete they will rush him to the Cath Lab for a catheterization to perform an atrial septostomy. Basically they will insert a balloon into the heart to open the atrial septum. This is extremely dangerous. 

This takes our case from a serious HLHS case to an extremely serious HLHS case. I feel like his chances diminish every time I walk into the cardiologist's office. 

Please pray for our little guy. I'm not even sure of what specifically to pray for at this point but just pray. Please.

PS ~ Nathan and Todd, I'm ready for that blessing. I'll be calling you soon.


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